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=========================================   Thursday, April 25, 2002
A Baccarat Session at the Casino - FBMP a Customer Way - Anti Losing Strategy

Hello everyone,

The Casino of Montreal, where I play, has added 6 new mini-Baccarat tables.  Their table limits are $20 minimum and $1000 maximum.  The maximum bet being 50 times more than the minimum bet, which is quite a larger range than roulette tables, which are $50 minimum and $1000 maximum with the maximum only 20 times more than the minimum,  I thought it would be a great opportunity to deploy the FBMP (Flat Bet Mini Play - Baccarat system)'s betting selection combined with Superior Roulette's mild and effective progression.

I approached the tables.   They were quite crowded.  4 tables were active with 6 people at each table and a few people getting blue tokens for reservations.  The tables were equipped also with an electronic scoreboard showing the Player/Banker/Tie decisions.  The display was in French.  The letter J lit in red denominated Player (Joueur in French).   B in white for Banker (same initial in French) and a green light for Tie with the letter E (Egalité in French).  So, if you don't speak French, at least you can identify the decisions by their colour, or simply by comparing the outcome of the table with the light that just went on.  Also, Banker lights were on top, Tie lights in the middle and Player lights in the bottom row.  The most recent decision would light on the left side, scrolling the remaining lights towards the right.

Since, it would be hard and impractical to implement a scanner to detect the winning decision, as it is done automatically in Roulette tables, the lights would be turned on by the dealer.  And one should be careful that the dealer would not turn on the wrong light.  Quite a few mistakes were detected by careful players.  If you are relying on a a system that specifies what the next bet should be based on some history and stats, it is important to have the right display.  FBMP does rely on the last 2, 3 or 4 decisions depending on the circumstances.

My initial intention was to apply the Derivative method as well, that is in this case, to wait for 5 consecutive losses before joining the game.  However, this would require an empty seat the moment you want to join the table.  The six people sitting at the tables did not seem to have any intention to leave until the end of the shoe or the multiple decks within the shoe.  As a matter of fact, when the cards were exhausted, everybody left the table.

So, forgetting about the Derivative for now, I took a seat, watching the lady dealer shuffle the cards manually.   It took her a good 5 minutes to do so.  A player even pointed out that there should be a machine to shuffle the cards, not to use too much time from the player or the dealer's side.  The lady specified that that was part of her job as a dealer and that the player should be patient.  In fact, I took that time to do some thinking.   Watching her shuffle the cards, I thought if one could detect similar patterns to the previous shoe, if the shuffling wasn't dense, as the same card combinations would probably be thrown on the table.  Maybe one of these days, I could conduct some research in this area.

The lady started dealing the cards, and I lost the first 5 bets right up front, exactly what I meant to skip by using the derivative method.  Nevertheless, the system recovered quite nicely and I was able to finish the shoe with +8 units, despite the initial drawdown of -15 units.

I played another 4 sessions, this time leaving the shoe, the moment I was at +5 units.  Sometimes, this happened right away within 11-12 bets towards the beginning of the shoe and at times, it took a bit longer towards the middle-end of the shoe.

Leaving the casino with +28 units was the end of a successful day.  Not using the Derivative made me lose some 5-6 consecutive bets here and there, but the good side was that I didn't have to wait in order to play.  Also the system performed quite well without it.

Do not forget.  This is the last week to take advantage of the special going on in April.  Purchase FBMP and Superior Roulette and get $100 discount, plus a document simulating the combined strategy.  Whoever has acquired either of the 2 systems wil be entitled to the $100 discount, upon the purchase of the second system.

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Now, I would like to share with you a different way of applying FBMP or any system of your preference, as sent to me by a happy customer who acquired it.  He seems to have even more success playing it his way.

"What I do is track the system into 4 columns and use it as a guide to betting. I have found that it makes consistent patterns of +/-'s when playing and has "frequent hitting". The four columns are the following:

+/- (win/lose)
Overall performance (deviation tracking method using 0 as a start point)

Now, as the shoe starts to unfold, I just start out playing the FBMP way or I do not play at all.  For the most part, I wait out 10 decisions, but when it is hard to find a seat and I need to keep my place, I start out right away playing the original FBMP way. Once I am about 10-15 decisions into the shoe, I get a feel of how the hits are coming along using the +/- as a guide.

Deviation refers to an unusual cycle or event. If the wins are no longer than 3 and the losses are no longer than 4, a deviation would be when a win streak or loss streak of a greater amount happens such as 6 or 7. When this happens, I figure it is better to go with the flow than against it. Once it stops, I go back to the normal routines.
Deviation does occur, but it doesn't happen too often.

When using the +/- as a guide I look for a couple things. I look for the frequency of the -'s and the +'s and I also look at what their "trend is" meaning do they hit after each other like a -, - or a +,+ or do they rotate or hit once etc.  When using the Overall Performance as a guide, I use the theory of fluctuation on a certain point. So let's say a shoe has an Overall Performance (which did happen at the casino at the time as follows):  +0, +1, +0, +1, +2, +1, +0, -1, +0, +1, +0, -1, -2, -3, -2, -3, -2, -1, +0....

As seen using the Overall Performance, if you play for a return on zero, you could have made quite a "hefty" profit.  When I do this, I wait for a result to occur for this instance a -1 or +1 to occur. Once this happens, then I will play for 0 to come back as a situational point so I play the opposite or the same as FBMP.

Example: The above sequence has occurred and now +1 happens. I would play the opposite of FBMP because I expect the 0 to come back again.  When it does I achieve a 1 unit profit. So wait 1 spin before playing.

Those are the main things I look for. When deviation occurs, I wait for 2 plus times of deviation.  If the norms of the trend is for example 3 or 4 for losing streaks and all of the sudden a losing streak of 6 has occurred, that is a +3 from 3 and a +2 from 4. Instead of betting for it to end, I will bet for it to continue. So in the instance below when the losing streak was 11 straight losses, for me it was actually only 3 because I waited for 3 spins then started to play, lost 3 times then bet for it to continue and got hits from it. So when it goes out of the norms, I play for it to continue. if this occurs, I play for the deviation to continue. 

For example from a shoe I was in, the following happened... It was going regular, a hit almost always occured on the 3-4th win meaning the losing streaks (or for me winning streaks) lasted on average 2-3 hits. Now, in one particular shoe, there was a huge deviation on the losses, at the
time I was playing for a win hit and it was like so: +,-,-,-,+,+,-,-,+,-,-,-,-,-,-,-,-,-,-,-,+,+,+ after losing 2 times playing for the 3,4 hit, I then played against the streak and got to
run out the end of the losing streak for FBMP, but it was a winning streak for me of a good 6 hits  From the way I see it, if it turns back to +, I am out 1 unit, but if it dosen't turn back and goes on for another 15 hands, I am up another 15 units. So my logic is losing 1 unit is a sacrifice that could end up making much much more.  I then got up and left because it was late and everyone wanted to go home, plus I wanted to stop while I was ahead.

I use 5 main money management schemes:

1) When playing the fluctuation play, I bet that deviation will occur back to the norm or "hit point"  I use a d'Alembert -  up as you lose by 1 down as you win by 1.
Example: +0,-1,+0,-1,-2,-1,+0... Lets say I start playing after seeing two 0's, so I wait for 1 spin -1 then play the original FBMP.  Bet 1 lose, bet 2 win, bet 1 win, now its back to 0.

2) When I notice back to back hits of the +/- I use the divide count meaning say I want to make 4 units for example, I then take 4/2 (2 being the hits I want to make it in) then play it out.  Lets say I want to make 10 units in 5 spins. So we divide the units wanted by the spins wanted to win and you get your bet value. Let's use 10/5 as our example. We bet 2 units because 10/5 = 2. We win, now it is 8/4. 8/4 = 2 so we bet 2 units and we lose, now we are at 10/4. So we take 10/4 = 2.5 round it up makes 3. We bet 3 units and win now it is 7/3. 7/3 = 2.333 or 2 units rounded down. We bet 2 untis and we lose, we are now at 9/3. We bet 3 units because 9/3 = 3. We win, we are now at 6/2. Bet 3 units again and win, now we are down to 3/1. For me, when it gets down to 1 or 2 in the right hand side, I stop playing as long as my right hand number which is 3 in this case is smaller than the intial start which was 10 in our case. This would have been 7 units profit in this situation.

3) When I notice strong trends which always occur frequently of +'s and -'s ending within a certain period of plays such as 3-4 or 4-5, I use a "waiting Martingale". I wait for 3 losses or so (whatever the current trend is) then I start playing no more than a 3 step double up.  If the table is a 10 dollar minimum though, I will use a 10 dollar, 15 dollar 30 dollar progression. for a 5 dollar table though, 5-10-20. If I lose, it isn't a bad loss because I know from the other strategies I use I will be up more than enough and it hits very often.  So it gains back its losses plus some.

4) Flat bet on deviation streaks and ride them out.  When deviaton of 2 from the norm occurs, I flat bet for it to continue as I said above.

5) I use a cancellation system when one of my own theorized concepts come up called domination.  Domination is an idea I have noticed occurring. Basically it is when there is an imbalance between the even money bets. So for baccarat we will use P and B. A dominant pattern would be when either P or B is dominating over the other bet. BBBB P BBBBBB P BB PP BBBBB P BBB for example.  Banker is dominating and getting lots of hits. In this cycle though, I would not have started to play until the 5th banker had appeared.  This means bets start on the 6th one. This is a little out of proportion, but it does happen too. Usually not this strong, but quite near it. So when using a cancellation system, it does wonders. When I see this, I play a cancellation system knowing for the most part I will get a lot more hits than losses. Bets never get too high when I use this.

I have used this with my friend in the casino that is near him, he took out 250 dollars and I took out 85 dollars. He played 10 dollar chips (varied up to 15 when he was up some more) and I played 5 dollar chips the entire time. I only played for 45 minutes to an hour, he played for 2 hours."

You may be surprised at this, but recently I have been looking for a system for Baccarat that consistently loses.  I wonder if it's not too hard to implement one like that.  And if you have one that shows continuous losses, please send it to me (email:  Why would I want to have such a system?  Well, this is a new concept I'm working on. This losing system is supposed to bet on either Player or Banker based on a few set of rules.   And if the system loses session after session and on the long run, it would be a simple matter of reversing all bets to the opposite to completely reverse the results.  

For instance, let's say your system specifies to bet on Banker always after 3 successive Player decisions.  And we run tests and simulations implementing this system and let's say we find that it always loses over a few hundred or thousand decisions.   Then what we do is to wave this rule and say that now we bet always on Player after 3 successive Player decisions.  This automatically will reverse all the test results run on the previous version of the system to the positive side.  Moreover, since now you are betting on Player, you won't even have to pay the commissions.

Think about it.  Comments and feedback are welcome.  You can use the discussion forum to discuss it among yourselves, if you think this can be a good viable solution.

Wishing you all the best,
Until next week,


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