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==============================================   Wednesday, February 23, 2011
FAQ on the New CYL (Catch you Later) Baccarat System by Izak Matatya

Hello everyone,

The new CYL (Catch you Later) Baccarat system launched about 10 days ago was received with great enthusiasm.  There were numerous questions about the system and I'd like to share my answers in an FAQ newsletter this week.

Q. Glad you are still working hard on a system for us. I guess I have a couple quick questions:

Looking at chart below, if I began playing at about hand 10,600 and played through to hand 19,700, besides dying at the table for lack of bathroom breaks, does the chart mean that i would have played almost 9,000 hands and not made anything?

A. Yes, that’s what it means. At times, the chart will have ups and downs. The important thing is that you are always ahead of the game, profits are gradual, despite some fluctuations. At times, you could even make 70 units per shoe. And at times be negative for a certain shoes. The 18 unit average per shoe rate is maintained throughout the long term application of the system.

Q. You say unit size 1 - 650 does this mean that you would have to make a 650 unit bet to obtain the results below?

A. For those parameters, the highest bet is 620 units. The system will work with the same proportion also with the highest bet at around 304 units.

Q. Are you betting 650 units at some point to win 1?

A. You don’t win 1, you may win 20, 30, 40 and even 50 units in one shot. Otherwise, the basic win rate is about 3-5 units per shot.

Q. You state “bet range of 1-650”. If one is playing $5 units, does that mean the highest bet is $5 x 650 (which would be a $3,250 single bet)?

Or using $5 units do we need a bankroll of $3,250?

A. There has been only a couple of occurrences within the entire 41,004 decisions of 600 Zumma shoes, where the bet of 620 units were necessary in order to come out profitable at the very end of the 600th shoe. This is not a common practice for the system at all. 99.99% of the time, your bets do not escalate more than 20-30 times your initial bet of whichever unit size you’re using: $5, $10 or $20.

Q. 1. You provide stats for a bet range of 1-650. Many Vegas casinos have a $5,000 max bet, regardless of what the min bet happens to be. Thus, a $10.00 min bet with a max bet of $5,000 is a bet range of 1-500, and of course a $25.00 min & $5,000 max calculates to a bet range of only 1-200. Please explain how this would impact your system? Also, expand on your comment that it will suit all budgets.

A. The range of 1-650 was only for the given parameters for a particular simulated run for the type of profits announced, that is, 11011 units.
One can limit the highest bet to 443 units, in order to make 8815 units end profit for the 600 Zumma shoes, or to 316 units to make 4790 units end profit or to 226 units in order to make 1974 units end profit. The lowest in the high bet one could go is 161 units and that will profit only 140 units by the end of the 600 Zumma shoes. Anything less will not beat Zumma.

Q. What is the required bank roll per shoe? Per session ( 5 shoes ) ? Lifetime?

A.  A lifetime of 2754 units are required for the making of 11,011 units, 2223 units are required to make 8815 units, 1718 units are required to make 4790 units and 1640 units are required to make 1974 units.

Per session the same bankroll is required, not knowing exactly how the shoe will behave. That's why I present the worst case scenario.

Per shoe, also various things can happen. You may make 70 units profit per shoe with a bankroll of 20 units. Or you may lose 30 units per shoe dragging down your bankroll. There are really no sessions. This is all about continuous play, future losses being eliminated at one point of time, either within the same shoe or within subsequent shoes. It's a very particular system. The important thing is that it wins long term.

Q. What is the calculated win/loss % ratio ( per shoe) for the Zumma 600 shoes? What is the win/loss ratio ( per shoe) for the live casino shoes you have played?

A. Since we're betting Banker only, your total wins are 1.5% more than your total losses on the long run. Some shoes are Player dominant. So this ratio can vary. Again, long term, you get more Banker decisions, which is important for this system to work properly. Commissions are always taken into account for each win.

Q. Are you using a negative progression, and how many bets ( steps ) within the total progression?

A. There are no progressions, but a count table to associate how much, when and how to recover a specific loss at a certain given point of time.

Q. Can this be used for other games?

A. The concept of CYL is so strong, it can be easily transported  to other games as well.  And I can suggest some very good bet selections.

Q. To get around the table limits could not one just switch to a higher table maximum of the same game at the same or a different casino at some cutoff amount, so it would have no effect say at an arbitrary amount of units from 250 to 350 units for example? If this would work Izak would have to make a rule on the when?

A. It's surely one way to overcome the limits of the table. Switching from a $5-$500 to a $25 - $1000 and then to a $50 - $2000 range will feel like playing at a $5 - $2000 increasing the range from 1-100 to 1-400.

Another way is to get a partner. If the table limit is 1-100 and you need to place a 200 unit bet, then both of you place 100 units, to double your bet.

Since the outcome of decisions is random and neither table or shoe keeps memory, it makes no difference in terms of the bet selection and switch from one table to another smoothly continuing from where one was left off.

Q. What is your highest bet when you play it live?

A. My highest bet so far has not exceeded 42 units.

Q. Izak, congratulations on what sounds like another very inovative system. Do you believe that an experienced gambler could play your system and make $100 a day starting with $10 bets? I have many, many of your sytems, and most have higher drawdowns that i would like to play. I have played some of your systems, but I do not get into the high bets. How do you avoid this? When you are uncomfortable, leave the table. Some shoes are bizarre and will beat any system.

A. $100 profit at $10 a bet, is one can easily make within only 1 shoe. If one plays multiple shoes, this can be multiplied. As I mentioned before, this is a safer system than the others, because the profit aimed is not too agressive, but only a slight percentage higher than a previous loss.

Some shoes are really bizarre and it is highly recommended to simply stay away from them when things start working not the way we expect them to.

Q. Izak, what type of win goal do you play for with a 200 unit BR? Or do you just play through as much as you want in a session and then pick it right up where you leave off the next time you play? Ultimately, you will bust on the 200 units though right?

In your Zumma test, you stated at 161 max bet, you won't make anything. So, what are you doing differently in live play to make a 42 unit max bet profitable?

Do you have a spreadsheet for inputting any set of decisions and testing the results?

And, why not run the Z1000 decisions through your model also?

If you engineered off the Z600 and were profitable off the Z1000, that would be pretty impressive (of course assuming with all commissions included and perfect programming).

A. Win goal means, you play until you reach a certain target, then you stop playing. With CYL, I really don't have a win goal. I know the system will eventually generate profits even if the very first shoe I play comes out negative. And when the profits start coming the second, third shoe, I simply quit, when I'm tired.

This is a system, that profits indefinitely, unless, as we all know, some very bad shoe (Player dominant for this system) comes along and it's best not to pursue with this shoe all the way, until it drains a long chunk of the profits, but at least keep a win plateau of conserving 75% of all profits made so far during that day, or two days.

Those are the type of actions I take with a maximum bet of 42 units and still manage to keep ahead.

I have fully automated spreadsheets with lots of parameters to input and test results. That's why I was able to provide information based on different levels of maximum bets, ceiling levels, drawdown and profit levels.

Yes, CYL beats the 1K Baccarat tester as well. You may want to call it engineering in order to come up with certain input parameters that will have profitable end result. Actually, each project of mine is an engineering project, from the goal and mission setting all the way to the project implementation and final product, which is quite different than reverse engineering a system, that will suit a certain tester book.

By the way, CYL works well with randomly generated decisions, as well, which could not possibly have been reverse engineered.

CYL is really impressive. It's one of the best systems I came up with recently.

Thank you all for your great questions.  It's been a privilege and a pleasure to answer them.

The price of the system is $350, an amount you will probably make playing only 2 shoes with $10 bets.  The remaining profits are all yours to keep. 

Click here to order for an email delivery of the system.  $5 extra for a printout mailed to your address.  As usual, you have a full money back guarantee, should you not like the system and you can return it in 30 days, no questions answered, no strings attached.

Thank you,
Izak Matatya

Wishing you all the best,


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